Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: panix!mara@cmcl2.nyu.EDU (Mara Chibnik) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: birth control failure? Message-ID: <1991Jun4.233445.1484@panix.uucp> Date: 5 Jun 91 16:23:07 GMT References: <675575737@lear.cs.duke.edu> <675716623@lear.cs.duke.edu> Organization: (getting there) Lines: 35 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article <675716623@lear.cs.duke.edu> gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) addresses Muffy Barkocy: >I have no intention to force you to carry a child you don't want, >so please lay down your prepared "choice for *WOMEN*" speech. He may honestly mean it, but it isn't enough. As things now stand, women are actively discouraged from seeking abortions. To demand that a man be able to pull out with simple efficiency by the announcement that he disowns the pregnancy is simply not sufficient unless and until a woman can truly terminate the pregnancy without having to undergo the kind of pressuring that she now faces. >choice for men in a case of birth control failure, and what kind of >choice you may be willing to offer to *MEN*. Turn the women's right to an abortion into reality rather than myth, and then let's see what we can offer men. Does this sound biased to you? Please bear in mind that unless abortion rights are guaranteed, two people will become parents, whether or not that's what they wanted and intended. Moderators should feel free to redirect followups, but I don't expect to participate further in this thread. -- cmcl2!panix!mara Mara Chibnik mara@dorsai.com Life is too important to be taken seriously.