Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: ambitious women may approach the altar now ... Message-ID: Date: 2 Jun 91 06:20:23 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Edinburgh University Lines: 62 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article oracle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Brian T. Coughlin) writes: >Re: David H. Wagner >In article , > math1h3@jetson.uh.edu writes, in response to [someone]: >>... >> But they do need to be submissive to their own husbands. > > Hi, David! > > The question is: is the issue of "women submitting to men" one of those >1st century edicts that is no longer applicable in our day and age? I say yes. > >---- > Take care! > > Sincerely, Brian Coughlin > oracle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu Hi everone; I am not a christian, however as a muslim I should enjoin to the right. Therefore I support David that woman should be submissive to their husbands. Islam clearly says that man and woman are equal in their account to One God. Their good deeds from their actions are given indiscriminitely. However Islam meaning peace assigns man to be the leader and the responsible person in the family structure. Ofcourse this is in family structure. In the same way, if there were two gods, there would be a chaos, if there were two leaders there will be a chaos in the family. Islam brings the tauheed, "oneness" with it, where all human race regardless of their colour, tongue and land worship only ONE GOD. All prophets come to preach this ONE RELIGION. And our return will be to ONE GOD at the end. As long as man and woman are aware of this fact, who leader is would not make much difference anyway. But when ignorance comes in, then it should be a big deal who the leader is. If One God has ordained that Man is the leader of the family, then we should accept it as we accept that we will return to him. If anyone would like to see that God always has chosen men as leaders, look at the Prophets of One God... They are all men including Adam, Noah, Jesus, Muhammad (peace be upon them). If anyone would like to see who are the honoured ones after the Prophets, look at the virgin Mary, or the first one who accepted the divine call of her husband, Khatijah, Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him)'s wife. Your muslim brother Hamid [This posting raises some policy issues. I've consistently rejected postings that are simply attempts to present the Moslem or Bahai religion, as well as Christian postings that would lead to discussions whose primary subject is Islam. On the other hand, we have had postings giving Jewish perspectives on issues under discussion (not to mention agnostic and atheist), so it seems to me that occasional postings from a Moslem perspective are OK, as long as they are not of such a nature as to lead the discussion off into a discussion of Islam. If I get a strong response from our readers that this violates the charter of the group, I'll reconsider. --clh]