Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!rpi!bu.edu!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!zahle.wpi.edu!shari From: rached@kaa.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rached Zantout) Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam Subject: Re: Ahadith dilemma: # of prayers/day Message-ID: <1991Jun2.200751.21167@wpi.WPI.EDU> Date: 2 Jun 91 20:07:51 GMT References: <1991May31.073332.11425@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: news@wpi.WPI.EDU (News) Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering Lines: 34 Approved: shari@zahle.wpi.edu Originator: shari@zahle.wpi.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zahle.wpi.edu About 5 or 3 times a day for prayer: This is the first time I heared of a 3 times a day prayers anywhere, to tell you the truth, I was shocked because I always took it for granted that muslims know this fact early enough. The prophet (PBUH) used to pray five times a day, Allah (SWT) has given us a ROUKHSA kind of to ease it on us, to be able to combine prayers in some circumstances. From what I know that when you are travelling you are allowed to combine (Asr and Zuhur) in the time of Zuhur or Asr; and Maghrib and Isha (in the time of Maghrib or Isha) and even you can pray Zuhur two rakaas instead of four and so for Asr and Isha but not MAghrib. But still it is not permitted to do anything other than that (like combining fajr and zuhur). The prophet (PBUH) used also (not many times as the Hadith that was mentioned in the original posting mentions) to combine prayers (observing the same rules above) while not travelling. I should emphasize that he did not do that often. So the Ulama (Knowlegeable people) have deduced that you could (if you are tired or you have any other reason) join two prayers as long as you do not make this a habit (once in a liftime or so ...). But all of this does not even justify one questionning if prayer should be observed 3 or 5 times a day. Another advice for all on the network, please do not read ayas and ahadith and think that you now know it all and start building conclusions on that, this is very dangerous since you are not sure that you have looked at all the evidence. A good way is to read also what the Ulama have said about the issue and if you have access to someone with knowledge ask him/her about it but do not jump hastily (sp ?) to conclusions -- "I bear witness that there is only one god, and that Muhammad is his messenger"