Xref: utzoo comp.admin.policy:354 alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk:97 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!spool.mu.edu!uunet!world!eff!kadie From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk Subject: Re: publicly-readable "adult" gifs (was Re: Ohio State University CIS Policies) Message-ID: <1991Jun8.025146.16881@eff.org> Date: 8 Jun 91 02:51:46 GMT References: <1991Jun3.165946.12637@eff.org> <1991Jun3.173550.13928@eff.org> <1991Jun3.232500.24850@ms.uky.edu> <1991Jun4.004016.20415@eff.org> In article <1991Jun7.180227.4515@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (that's me) writes: >>Can you be more specific? What rules? What law? jgreely@morganucodon.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely) writes: >The university's sexual harrassment rules, and the state law on making >"pornography" available to minors (we *do* get some). [...] >[I]n the specific case of R- >or X-rated graphic images, we care about the file permissions. [...] (I'll respond with two notes.) So the question is where does free expression end and harassment begin? Just as I have a right to speak, write, listen, and read; so, I also have a right not to speak, not to write, not to listen, and not read. The denial of my right not to listen or my right to to read is harassment. Thus, a campus meeting or rally by American's Against the Left-Handed (AALH) does not harass me because I don't have to attend the meeting and I can avoid the rally. On the other hand, if AALH members following me home, calling me a "dirty lefty", I am being harassed. Similarly, if you look at a picture of a nude person or show that picture with someone who wants to see it, no one is harassed. When, you display that picture in the office or on an unwilling person's X-terminal, you are harassing the unwilling people who must view the picture. You cannot harass me merely by setting file permissions such that others can view material that I find offensive. Finally, I note that Ohio State subscribes to Playboy magazine. (They really do; I checked). By collecting these pictures of nude people, the library harasses no one. Allowing you to see the pictures, harasses no one. On the other hand, if you photocopy the pictures and put them on an unwilling person's desk, you harass that person. - Carl -- Carl Kadie -- kadie@eff.org or kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- But I speak for myself.