Xref: utzoo alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk:101 comp.admin.policy:362 Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!world!eff!kadie From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) Subject: Re: Due process and computer policies (was OSU Policies) Message-ID: <1991Jun8.163335.10409@eff.org> Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation References: <1991Jun4.160947.7193@eng.umd.edu> <1991Jun5.143833.21547@eng.umd.edu> <1991Jun6.200457.7743@eff.org> <1991Jun8.035801.11343@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1991 16:33:35 GMT Lines: 38 > otto@fsu1.cc.fsu.edu (John Otto) writes: [...] > No. That's not adequate. What happens with "student participation in the > setting of policy" is that only brown nosers get appointed to the policy > committee. [...] cgd@ocf.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes: [...] >I don't think this is true, especially where the students have any say in >who represents them on the policy committee. And if the general body >of students (or users) has no say, then it cannot be said that they >really participate, or are represented. [...] >UCB OCF Staff - Though these are my words, and mine alone... I would note that (unlike most of us) Chris Demetriou knows of what he speaks. The University of California at Berkeley's Open Computer Facility is an organization that democratically manages computer resources for thousands of users. (It's consititution and bylaws are available via anonymous ftp from eff.org as files academic/ocf.contitution and academic/ocf/bylaws.) As to the issue of censorship under the guise of political correctness. I can't imagine the situation being any worse than it is under university administrators. When a unit of Stanford cut off the rec.humor.funny newsgroup because some people found some of its jokes offensive, "Donald Kennedy, Stanford's President, told the Academic Senate that he supported the suppression but would defer to the Senate." [see file academic/stanford.statements]. Boston University's computer policy (among others) forbits "... making accessible offensive [or] annoying ... material." [see file academic/widener/bostonu] - Carl -- Carl Kadie -- kadie@eff.org or kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- But I speak for myself.