Xref: utzoo alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk:121 comp.admin.policy:388 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!jato!dave From: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes) Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: Due process and computer policies (was OSU Policies) Message-ID: <1991Jun10.193936.21548@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: 10 Jun 91 19:39:36 GMT References: <1991Jun4.160947.7193@eng.umd.edu> <1991Jun5.143833.21547@eng.umd.edu> <1991Jun6.200457.7743@eff.org> <1991Jun8.035801.11343@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> Reply-To: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab - Pasadena, CA Lines: 35 cgd@ocf.Berkeley.EDU (Chris G. Demetriou) writes: >You say that "only brown nosers get appointed to the policy committee." I didn't, but I have observed this to be true. >I don't think this is true, especially where the students have any say in >who represents them on the policy committee. And if the general body >of students (or users) has no say, then it cannot be said that they >really participate, or are represented. How is this different from other examples of such committees...like, let's say...Congress? >I honestly don't think that comments on the wonderful subject of >"political correctness" (the topic amuses me...) are relevant to this >discussion - in some things, such as academics, and funding situations, >arguments can probably be made in favor of PC or against. A politically correct statement if I ever heard one. 8) Actually, I'd have to disagree with you. There is a clear cut foray into "due process" and the fundamental tenet of American justice "innocent until proven guilty" in this entire discussion. >However, in the world of computers, i've yet to see an opinion biased >by race, creed, color, etc - it simply is not relevant. I can cite a few examples. E-mail me if you like. -- Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov ames!elroy!dxh If your own vice happens to be the search for virtue, recognize that it is so.