Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!news From: james@engrss2.unl.edu (James Nau) Subject: Re: 804 dialout Message-ID: <1991Jun10.223451.2027@unlinfo.unl.edu> Sender: james@engrs.unl.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: engrss2.unl.edu Organization: College of Engineering, University of Nebraska--Lincoln References: <1991Jun7.050512.29949@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> <1991Jun10.131909.14977@news.larc.nasa.gov> Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1991 22:34:51 GMT Lines: 26 In article <1991Jun10.131909.14977@news.larc.nasa.gov> jcburt@ipsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) writes: >In article jb3o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jon Allen Boone) writes: >>tfabian@falcon.lerc.nasa.gov (Teddy Fabian) writes: >>> whether the dialouts in question have a password on them or not isn't >>> the issue.. the issue is whether or not it's right for you or me (or any >>> of a thousand other people) to use something to their advantage that isn't >>> meant for them to use.. >> >> Actually, within a certain domain, it is the issue of whether or not >>access was restricted or people were informed. There is a difference >>between a car and a dialout. For instance, if you did use my car >>without my permission/knowledge, I'd be worried about getting it back, >>who had taken it, etc. On the other hand, if you were using, say, my >>television - you were just sitting there watching my tv - and not > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>causing any other difficulty, then I'd have to say that I would mind >>much less. It costs money for someone to pay when I use their dialout >>- it also cost money when you watch my tv (read: electricity). >>However, in either case, it is of a different class than that of using >>my car w/o my permission/knowledge. Perhaps a better still analogy. What if the TV were in the Student Union/Center and some non-student is there watching TV. Then, a non-student is using resources of the school... James