Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!mintaka!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!cs.umu.se!jan From: jan@cs.umu.se (Jan T}ngring) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: Turing Test: opinions on an idea Message-ID: <1991Jun7.163915.6684@cs.umu.se> Date: 7 Jun 91 16:39:15 GMT References: <1991May13.133711.102@athena.mit.edu> <1991May14.031103.2624@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <1991May16.005158.1822@athena.mit.edu> Sender: jan@cs.umu.se Organization: Dep. of Info.Proc, Umea Univ., Sweden Lines: 33 In article <1991May16.005158.1822@athena.mit.edu> patl@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti) writes: >Suppose I construct a list of all >conversations that I feel you and I might have for the next few minutes. >(Let's see. You say, "hello", then I say, "hi," then you say...) I then >compile this into a large search tree, then allow you to communicate >with it by tty. With whom are you conversing? > >With me, obviously. All I have done is pre-record my responses. It is >just a rather strange communication medium. > >The Turing Test serves to detect intelligence; it gives no guarantee as >to where that intelligence lies. Consider the fact that a two-way radio >passes the TT. The TT correctly detects the presence of an >intelligence; it is your own error if you attribute that intelligence to >the radio. For the case of Block's device, the intelligence which the >TT detects is that of the creators of the list. I think that Block tries to guard himself from this counter-argument by arguing that the program might suddenly come to existence by pure chance. In other words no intelligence involved. In the two-way radio example you might just be talking to random noise on the same channel that happens to sound like a voice responding sensibly. Does anyone have a comment to this? >-Pat LoPresti (patl@athena.mit.edu) _____________ ________________ / // /\email:jan@cs.umu.se /____________//_______________/ / \________ \\_____ _____\/ mail:Jan Tangring /____/ \ \ / \ \ \ Mariehemsvagen 15E-409 \ \/_\ \/ \ \ / S-902 36 UMEA \___________/ \____\/ Sweden