Path: utzoo!telecom-request Date: Wed, 5 Jun 91 16:46:11 EDT From: William F Thompson Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: New PIN for my AT&T Card? Message-ID: Organization: Tex and Edna Boil's Prairie Warehouse and Curio Emporium Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 427, Message 6 of 9 Lines: 63 From article , by netnews@ulysses. att.com (Steve Bellovin): > Note that AT&T will *NOT* be providing card verification to other > interexchange carriers. This should deal with the oft-expressed > concerns of our customers that they not be billed by an AOS for calls > placed on an AT&T Card. > I hope this sets your mind at ease. >> Now I don't consider my friends, parents, and relatives to be all that >> ignorant on how to use a telephone, but I just can't see how THIS is >> going to be explained to them by AT&T and/or the BOCs. AT&T and the >> BOCs sure didn't do a good job when it came to warning people about >> AOSs until quite late in the game; I am wondering how much more >> confusion this nonsense will cause. > Tell them to use their AT&T Card. Period. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Andy Sherman/AT&T Bell Laboratories/Murray Hill, NJ Andy couldn't be more correct. All you have to use in the future for calling card calls will be your NEW (and I stress NEW) AT&T calling card. Let me clear up some common misconceptions. First, there are three formats for the new AT&T calling card: a CCITT Full Format 21 digit card, an abbreviated 17 digit card, and what's known as a hyperdialed 14 digit calling card. All you will have to dial is 14 digits, period. Forever. The AT&T formats, as discussed by someone else, are as follows: CCITT Full Format 21 digit: 891288 XXXXXX XXXX L PINN where L is a Luhn check digit 891253 XXXXXX XXXX L PINN " " " " " " " Abbreviated 17 digit dialing: 288 XXXXXX XXXX PINN 253 XXXXXX XXXX PINN Hyperdialed 14 digit dialing: XXXXXX XXXX PINN You will only have to dial the 14 digits. So you only have to remember one new calling card number. And yes, you can bill your intralata calls to your AT&T card, but they are not carried by AT&T (of course). As far as I've heard, you will be able to choose your own PIN also. Most of these cards will be issued by the end of this year. Some of the cards already issued (Universal Cards, for example) start out with 507 and 508 as the Issuer ID. The fourth digit of a 14 digit AT&T issued calling card (the new ones, remember) will always be a 0 or a 1 (just like the old "shared" RAO cards). I hope I've answered some questions that you may have. You can drop me a line if you have any more questions. Bill Thompson att!ihlpf!foz