Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!telecom-request From: macy@fmsys.uucp (Macy Hallock) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Re: Looking for Inexpensive Outside Wire Message-ID: Date: 9 Jun 91 01:16:00 GMT Sender: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu Organization: Hallock Engineering and Sales Medina, Ohio USA +1 216 722 3053 Lines: 71 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 11, Issue 444, Message 4 of 10 In article is written: > Patton M. Turner wrote: >> C-wire (drop wire) is hard to beat if you are going to use unshelded >> cable. It can be run overhead or plowed in the ground. > C Rural Wire is TOUGH stuff, but buried? I've never seen it buried in > my experience or heard of doing so before. Listen, I've seen C-wire aerial, buried, submerged, strung on fenceposts and hung to trees and it always worked. Even used it (well a couple of strands of it) to pull a tractor out of the mud once. At one point, a large part of most distant rural cable plant of a certain telephone company I worked for was made of the stuff. (Hint: one of John Higdon's favorite phone companies, and it ain't PB) In fact, much of the stuff was ten + years old. Saw some of it taken down off poles and buried. Worked for a couple more years, too. > I recommend against direct burial of C Rural Wire. It is designed as > an AERIAL wire (1-pr/1-line wire) and not really even as a "drop" > wire. C Rural Wire is used for exceptionally LONG aerial spans whose > length would cause ordinary F Service Wire (aerial drop wire) to fail > at the P-clamps or break in the span. Quite true, but its very well made stuff, or at least it was back in 1970. > A typical C Rural Wire installation includes terminating the C Rural > Wire at the pole closest to the station where it is connected with a > 105 block to conventional F Service Wire for the final span to the > station. Also correct. Except for the stuff we lay across the fields and construction areas. Do you have any idea what C-wire can do to a tractor running a brush hog? Hint: the tractor loses... > If the service MUST be hung, I would probably forgo the luxury and > expense of poles and simply hang the spans, with PLENTY of slack, from > the existing trees. Now, that what C-wire's for! It also held the Chatham Farmer's Mutual Telephone Company together for many, many years, just this way... Most of the stuff I used and saw way back then was General Cable or Brand-Rex. > AT&T's Phoenix Works manufactures an EXCELLENT, 5-pair, jelly-filled > buried service "wire". This is true, but I like Brand-Rex's six pair or two pair buried drop, too. Of course, you could just get your ham ticket and a couple of two meter handie-talkie's (Shameless plug: the technician ticket is now available in a no-morse-code version ... and while I'm on that subject: what's your excuse for no ticket, Patrick? [grin] We need all the decent hams we can get.) Macy M. Hallock, Jr. N8OBG 216-725-4764 Home macy@fmsystm.UUCP macy@NCoast.ORG Note: macy@ncoast.org is best reply path to me. uunet!aablue!fmsystm!macy [No disclaimer, but I have no real idea what I'm saying or why I'm telling you] [Moderator's Note: The technician's ticket now available *without* the Morse Code test?? Shame ... shame on all! Anyway, some people say I am already a ham ... PAT]