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From: gregs@well.sf.ca.us (Greg Strockbine)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Shutdown: EMACS vs. vi
Message-ID: <25311@well.sf.ca.us>
Date: 8 Jun 91 02:12:50 GMT
References: <1991Jun2.075649.3512@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> <JOCKC.91Jun3114636@hammer.idsila.com>
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>    In article <1991Jun02.184943.8202@convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
> 
>       >programmer. I don't wont to write "what-line" (9 keystrokes).
I just can't resist interjecting my own biased, blunt opinion into
this melee.  Comparing vi to emacs makes as much sense to me as comparing
more to x-windows.  Quite frankly where I work those who still insist
on using vi are duds.  Before I moved to emacs I was a vi expert, I
used to console anyone who had trouble with or complained about vi.  I
can still run rings around any of the vi users here.
	Typically the vi users here learn as little about unix as
possible.  Can you image using unix for 6 years and not understand
how to add a target to a makefile?  One vi user gave up learning emacs
when he discovered he could not display line numbers.  The most common
complaint of vi users is that emacs is too verbose.  Actually its the
other way around, you'll do much more work without emacs.  When they
talk about verboseness they only consider cursor movement and 
inserting/deleting characters.
	And can you believe this we don't even have x-windows.  I call the
vi guys flat-landers.  A pencil is a vi user's best friend because
the info scrolls off their screen so they have to write it down.
	ok, now here is the kicker I composed this message with vi cause
I'm not on my home system.
	greg strockbine