Xref: utzoo comp.mail.misc:5663 comp.mail.uucp:6793 news.admin:14990 Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp,news.admin Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uunet!spooky!witr From: witr@rwwa.COM (Robert Withrow) Subject: Re: BITFTP grief! Message-ID: <1991Jun5.221240.19122@rwwa.COM> Sender: witr@rwwa.COM (Robert Withrow) Reply-To: witr@rwwa.COM Organization: R.W. Withrow Associates References: <1991Jun2.151614.65@cmkrnl.uucp> <1991Jun4.151838.7885@bony1.bony.com> <1991Jun5.021549.28810@iguana.uucp> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1991 22:12:40 GMT In article <1991Jun5.021549.28810@iguana.uucp>, merce@iguana.uucp (Jim Mercer) writes: |In article <1991Jun4.151838.7885@bony1.bony.com> stevef@bony1.bony.com (Steve Faiwiszewski) writes: |>Now, since we *PAY* for connection to uunet...there would be no harm for |>us calling upon the services of an MBAS. |unless the MBAS is located on uunet AND uunet has direct links to all the |systems it will auto-snarf files from, you can not say that you "*DONT* go |thru anyone else's system".... since you pay uunet, and not the internet as |a whole, you are limited to uunet and anything beyond that is a gift. MBAS |providers and members of the internet are under no contract to supply you |with anything. This strikes me as a pointless (albeit true) remark, because the same can be said about any kind of direct internet access. And no one in this thread has complained about the costs ``to-the-net'' of anonymous FTP. I do not believe that a MBAS (when used as described above) increases the costs to any arbitrary internet node beyond that which results from direct internet access. It may in fact *lower* the costs; it can enforce copying-time restrictions thus decrease the load on the net. Stated another way, using a MBAS that mails the FTPd stuff *only* to directly connected sites is no more costly to the net than using anonymous FTP. Since the ``net-at-large'' seems willing to support the costs of anonymous FTP, I don't see how the ``net-at-large'' can object to such a MBAS service. BTW, UUNET *does* have a MBAS: You send them mail and ask them to FTP something. It works, but, from my experience, slowly and unreliably. -- --- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA 01907 USA Tel: +1 617 598 4480, Fax: +1 617 598 4430, Net: witr@rwwa.COM