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From: alan@tivoli.UUCP (Alan R. Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re:  use of metrics
Message-ID: <813@tivoli.UUCP>
Date: 10 Jun 91 21:34:22 GMT
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Reply-To: alan@tivoli.UUCP (Alan R. Weiss)
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In article <35353@mimsy.umd.edu> cml@cs.umd.edu (Christopher Lott) writes:
>In some article I write:
>>>Clearly the metrics person must justify that there
>>>will be some return on the metrics investment, o/w there's no point. 
>
>In article <801@tivoli.UUCP> alan@tivoli.UUCP (Alan R. Weiss) writes:
>>My point, which you have NOT addressed,
>>is that ... If you can't produce
>>short-term improvements, you're probably in trouble 
>
>It occurs to me that Mr Weisss is looking for the silver bullet.  Count
>this, do that if the number is in this range, Boom, done.  Swell.  But I 
>also think I'm selling him short here.  It's a good point, but not a great
>one.

[the rest of Chris' posting deleted to save time ... plus I agree with
most of it]

Yep, I'm lookin' for LOTS of silver bullets.  But, if you've read
my previous postings, you'll note that I am an overwhelming
believer in people first, systems second.  I came to this realization
the hard way, believe you me :-) 

I don't want to be needlessly didactic here, but I do this for a living,
Chris.  And have for over 10 years.  I'm constantly looking for new
ideas.  If these are characterized as silver bullets, so be it. :-)


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