Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!marlin.jcu.edu.au!cpca From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: (Video) Hardware Idiots ? Message-ID: <1991Jun10.034118.17541@marlin.jcu.edu.au> Date: 10 Jun 91 03:41:18 GMT References: <1991Jun7.091455.10355@rulway.LeidenUniv.nl> <1991Jun8.085839.3556@news.iastate.edu> <17259@chopin.udel.edu> Organization: James Cook University of North Queensland Lines: 62 In article <17259@chopin.udel.edu> don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes: >In article <1991Jun8.085839.3556@news.iastate.edu> taab5@isuvax.iastate.edu writes: >>In article <1991Jun7.091455.10355@rulway.LeidenUniv.nl>, breemen@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (E. van Breemen) writes: >>>How compatible are those boards? Can I transfer all my display to such >>>cards or am I limited to one program (like Caligari?) For example I >>>would like to run the WB on such a card. I don't think that will be >>>possible under 1.3. But under 2.0??? >> >> Unfortunately, you will have to wait a while (probably a very LONG while) >>for that. This is NOT supported in AmigaDOS 2.0, and will not be supported >>on the Amiga for several years. >> > > So, Marc, when did CBM send you their official timetable? Or is it the >other way around, with you telling _them_ exactly what's going on? It must >also be nice to have every present and future 3rd party in the Amiga market >reporting to you to let you know what they're working in so that you'll be able >to make such statements as the above based on real, factual knowledge. Look stop flaming Marc when he is basically right! C= will take at least 2 years to get device independance working, considering their limited resources and the amount of time 2.0 has taken. Changing the graphics library to handle chunky pixels is hard work, and I feel most of the the calls will need new ones, with old software using the old calls for compatibility. C= will take a LONG time to do this!! Especially when they must be working on updating layers/intuition/workbench/graphics for the new graphics chips which hopefully are at least close to prototypes by now... >> Right now, you don't have any choices at all as to what kind of display >>you use for your Workbench. You either put up with the idiosyncracies of >>the Amiga's inadequate chipset, or get another system. It's as simple as >>that. >> > > I have a choice between 6 NTSC display modes, as well as PAL resolutions. >For my needs, 640x400 _is_ adequate, for now. I have no need for a 16 million ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >color workbench. I wouldn't _mind_ having these things available, but just >because they're not doesn't make the Amiga's chipset inadequate. Ha, 640*400 is FAR FROM adequate. If you've ever used a more powerful machine you'll know that. Just because you don't need colour and I don't need colour doesn't mean nobody needs colour. I really am sick of people flaming Marc whenever he says something negative about the rubbish C= chip set, or points that the OS is missing something (like any MEMORY PROTECTION AT ALL, and seemingly none planned). I'll let you all get back to your worship of C= .... >-- > Gibberish May the Publications Editor, AmigaNetwork > is spoken fork() be Amiga Student On-Campus Consultant, U of D > here. with you. DISCLAIMER: It's all YOUR fault. -- Colin Adams Computer Science Department James Cook University Internet : cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au North Queensland 'And on the eighth day, God created Manchester'