Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!zardoz.cpd.com!tmiuv0!rick From: rick@tmi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Mail addresses...which one is correct? Message-ID: <5206@tmi.com> Date: 3 Jun 91 12:46:55 GMT References: <1991May16.131635.19878@ns.network.com> <1991May17.135218.8338@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca> Organization: Technology Marketing Inc., Irvine, CA Lines: 62 In article <1991May17.135218.8338@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca>, ewilts@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca (Ed Wilts) writes: > In article <1991May16.131635.19878@ns.network.com>, guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea) writes: >> I have received mail many times and sometimes I do a "r" for reply while in >> mail, I get the mail back. It got to me, why can't I send the other way? > > This obviously isn't the correct newsgroup for your question since the amiga > doesn't have a mail utility, [...] Ah, but you're wrong, Laser Lips. 8-) The Amiga does indeed have a mail utility, but it's not written by CBM. I refer, of course, to Matt Dillon's UUCP system, complete with UUCP, Netnews, _AND_ mail. Works fine, lasts a long time. >> Can anyone tell me how to decifer these? >> Like "someplace!somehow! guy@uunet.uu.net" or "ad897963-dads3@somewhere.here"? > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > This addressing method is likely to get you in trouble in many mailers... Yes, it can. I'll explain. A path (address) containing "!" characters (we call them "bangs") describes a path from system to system that is used by the uucp (Unix-to-Unix-CoPy) program. The first path above says that the message, somehow must get to "someplace" then to "somehow" and from there it goes to uunet.uu.net and into the mailbox of some user named "guy". This path is called "mixed mode", since it uses the bang path and an Internet-style domain. Most mailing programs have major problems using mixed mode addresses. The second path above is merely an Internet-style domain address. It assumes that your software knows how to send a message to "somewhere.here" (it looks it up in a map database and builds a bang path to get it from point A to point B, but you never see that happen. It's "magic".) Once it gets to "somewhere.here", it goes into the mailbox of user "ad897963-dads3" on that system. If you look at my .signature below, you'll see two different addresses, one for the system here at the office (tmiuv0!rick) and one for the Unix box (and eventually my A3000, that is the xyclone!sysop address). The first line of the address is the uucp bang path, which assumes that you know how to get a message to the system "uunet". The second line has the equivalent Internet domain address. This really belongs in the comp.mail group. But, you knew that already. > >> -- >> Guy Dandrea, Network Systems Corp. // >> guy@nsco.network.com #129.191.1.1 \\ // >> 7600 Boone Ave No, Mpls. MN 55428 \X/ >> 1-800-328-9108 Fax:(612)424-1736 "Me and my Amiga...anything is possible?" > > -- > .../Ed Preferrred: Ed.Wilts@BSC.Galaxy.BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA > Ed Wilts Alternate: EdWilts@BCSC02.BITNET (604) 389-3430 > B.C. Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8 .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. |[- O] Rick Stevens | | ? EMail: uunet!zardoz!tmiuv0!rick -or- uunet!zardoz!xyclone!sysop | | V (rick@tmi.com) (sysop@ssssc.com) | | CIS: 75006,1355 (75006.1355@compuserve.com from Internet) | | | | "If it's stupid and it works, it ain't stupid!" | `--------------------------------------------------------------------------'