Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!public!thad From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Handshake 2.20c questions Message-ID: <2997@public.BTR.COM> Date: 9 Jun 91 09:51:50 GMT References: <1991Jun6.030522.3061@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> <2969@public.BTR.COM> <1991Jun8.212156.1663@dayton.saic.com> <2996@public.BTR.COM> Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA Lines: 33 In article <2996@public.BTR.COM> thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes: >[...] >I have "real" DEC VT100, DEC VT102, DEC VT220, and DEC VT340 terminals at my >office and can see how they are definitely braindamaged. >[...] What I meant by that statement is that if the terminal is IN, say, VT100 mode, then that is how the terminal should report itself. The concept of "preferences" seems to be lost at certain companies. If the user wants to be in VT100 mode, an application (or operating system) shouldn't second-guess the user's intents, especially if the user is coming in over a network from a system that still thinks the user is on a VT100 but when the user returns to the first system the terminal was "gratuiously" set by VMS to a VT200 which now breaks applications on the first system which still believes the terminal to be in VT100 mode. (Huh? :-) The "SET TERM/INQUIRE" shouldn't alter the user's preferences as it presently does. Of course, what could one expect from a company that's more than three years late with TCP/IP support in its DECnet product? (Re: DECnet Phase V promised in 1988; this is now 1991 and rumors suggest Phase V "may" be available by the end of this month (we'll see)). With increasing frequency over the 25+ years I've used DEC products, I'm drawn to the conclusion that DEC isn't always dealing with a full deck. :-) Apologies to my friends and acquaintances who are employed by DEC; the real "problem" is rooted back east in MA in the office of a certain individual. Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]