Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!deccrl!news.crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!clo.enet.dec.com!coburn From: coburn@clo.enet.dec.com (John T. Coburn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm Subject: Re: Handshake 2.20c questions Message-ID: <23308@shlump.lkg.dec.com> Date: 9 Jun 91 21:41:56 GMT Sender: newsdaemon@shlump.lkg.dec.com Organization: DEC - EIS Cleveland, Ohio Lines: 53 In article <2997@public.BTR.COM>, thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes... :In article <2996@public.BTR.COM> thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan) writes: :>[...] :>I have "real" DEC VT100, DEC VT102, DEC VT220, and DEC VT340 terminals at my :>office and can see how they are definitely braindamaged. :>[...] : :What I meant by that statement is that if the terminal is IN, say, VT100 mode, :then that is how the terminal should report itself. : Agreed. :The concept of "preferences" seems to be lost at certain companies. : :If the user wants to be in VT100 mode, an application (or operating system) :shouldn't second-guess the user's intents, especially if the user is coming :in over a network from a system that still thinks the user is on a VT100 but :when the user returns to the first system the terminal was "gratuiously" set :by VMS to a VT200 which now breaks applications on the first system which :still believes the terminal to be in VT100 mode. (Huh? :-) : :The "SET TERM/INQUIRE" shouldn't alter the user's preferences as it presently :does. Also, agreed - SET TERM/INQUIRE is braindamaged in several ways. : :Of course, what could one expect from a company that's more than three years :late with TCP/IP support in its DECnet product? (Re: DECnet Phase V promised :in 1988; this is now 1991 and rumors suggest Phase V "may" be available by the :end of this month (we'll see)). No comment. :-) : :With increasing frequency over the 25+ years I've used DEC products, I'm drawn :to the conclusion that DEC isn't always dealing with a full deck. :-) : :Apologies to my friends and acquaintances who are employed by DEC; the real :"problem" is rooted back east in MA in the office of a certain individual. : Probably more than one individual. :Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Coburn !Email: Digital Equipment Corporation ! coburn@clovax.enet.dec.com -or- Digital Services, Consulting Services ! coburn%clovax.enet@decwrl.dec.com Cleveland, Ohio ! ...!decwrl!clovax.enet!coburn ================================================================================