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From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Subject: Re: Info on setting up net news.
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References: <9106072205.AA12094@hobbes.mdc.com> <1991Jun9.134222.13142@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 91 16:47:42 GMT

In article <1991Jun9.134222.13142@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:

  Telnet is broken on all Apollo systems, so it messes up anytime the port
  is put into "raw" or "cbreak" mode - rn, vi, ..., do this, so a carriage
  return gets converted to a line feed; to avoid it, use rlogin.

I don't think this is a telnet bug, I think it's a result of the fact that
pads are not ttys.  A pad can be either raw or cooked, and if it's raw it
doesn't do cr->nl translation.  I try to avoid using pads in raw mode.  I
always run telnet and friends from an xterm.