Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!hoss!greg From: greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Lets sum up! (was: Apple II BBS discussion) Message-ID: <1991Jun6.180713.3148@unlinfo.unl.edu> Date: 6 Jun 91 18:07:13 GMT References: <1991Jun4.122506.16834@clark.edu> Sender: news@unlinfo.unl.edu Organization: GBBS/ACOS Sysop Support Lines: 82 Nntp-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu geniusman@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Chris Moylan) writes: >@ () writes: >>@ () writes: >>>It is NOT based on AppleSoft Basic entirely. It has AmperWorks and >>>ModemWorks to give it commands AppleSoft could NEVER have otherwise. As >>>for ACOS, what the HELL is it? If I bought a BBS, I'd buy one based on a >>>language I already know. >>Do you know BASIC? Then you practically know Acos. >>So I take it that you already knew Proline's ways of doing things, and had >>to learn nothing... and you didn't have to learn &**** commands either. NOT. >I hate to break it to you, but the & commands are HARDLY difficult to learn. >Let's see...& COPY...that would probably copy a file, ya think? Or how >about & WHEN NOT ONLINE GOTO #....that would probably redirect the program's >flow when the system goes off line, or is that one tough to understand, too? You are talking from the wrong perspective. One would not know instinctively that & COPY existed, or & WHEN NOT ONLINE GOTO existed. Why not & ON NOCAR GOTO ? In fact, I'd prefer not even having the & in there. >>Acos & Metal are MUCH easier >>to modify, and they ARE THE MOST USED BBS PROGRAMS. Period. Proline has no >>such hold on the Apple II bbs world, and never will. >>There are EASILY 3 or 4 times as many Acos/Macos boards out there than >>Proline. It is very much easier to start a new Acos/Metal board than it is >>Proline. Think not? TRY IT. >I'm sorry, let us count the networked GBBS boards... Invalid argument already. Did he say networked? Networking is not a requirement to run a BBS. >who gives a shit about GBBS pirate software boards?? Do you mean GBBS boards for pirate software or pirated GBBS boards? Either way, we are not interested in that. >I could do that with ProTERM Unattended mode! Sounds like the first one. >As for MACOS, Metal, and >whatever else you referred to, I don't see any of those around! MACOS systems often pretend to be ACOS systems, since they don't want to lose access to L&L Support. They are also not as common. >>How about Acos...... Bugs, >> Proline... slow and hard to Modify, >> Metal..... everything a Acos/Macos/Proline sysop ever wanted. >PROLINE SLOW??? The board I user regularly is VERY fast and easy to modify. >You should read some GBBS messages sometime, THEY are slow! Compare system configurations. Accellerators, CPU, whether or not the ProLine system was compiled after being translated to BASIC. (That is another plus for ProLine, but then you are paying more for the BASIC->ML compiler.) >Chris Moylan | ProLine: geniusman@pro-hindugods >CoSysop: Hindu Love Gods BBS | Internet: geniusman@pro-hindugods.cts.com >313/644-0481 | UUCP: crash!pro-hindugods!geniusman >300-9600 bps, v.32/v.42/v.42bis | ARPA: crash!pro-hindugods!geniusman@nosc.mil That must be one of the ProLine systems that uses handles. The software doesn't recommend it. That reminds me. One thing I dislike about the Future Visions code (the code given with the METAL language) is that it keeps calling the user by their real name. I've already changed that. You don't want anyone looking over your shoulder to equate your real name with your handle. You might not be on a real-name basis. -- /// ____ \\\ "The major problem--one of the major problems, for there are | |/ / \ \| | several--one of the many major problems with governing \\_|\____/|_// people is of whom you get to do it, or more to the greg \_\\\/ hoss.unl.edu point, who gets people to let them do it to them."