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From: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple ][ BBS Software
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Date: 6 Jun 91 23:36:22 GMT
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greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) wrote:
} >Morgan is more than willing to spend time to answer any questions - he
} >knows ProLine inside-out - he also happens to be a damn nice guy.
} 
} Well so far I haven't got much help getting it to run on my system.
 
What do you want me to do, buy you a hard drive, too?
 
I've remained silent to see where this thread would lead, but this comment
of yours motivated me to speak up, as your messages have been completely
unsatisfactory to the readers of this newsgroup.
 
Recall, you were *given* the software to try on the premise that you'd run
it for a few weeks and give it your honest evaluation.  Since you don't
even have the hardware to use it properly, you have wasted our time by
moaning and groaning about YOUR problem. You also received free copies of
MD-BASIC and ModemWorks as well, to show you that professional tools can
make a big difference, and you've not given them a fair evaluation, proven
by your flagrantly erroneous comments about all three products.
 
At first (in alt.bbs) you seemed to be the sort who enjoys working with
what you feel is the best software.  Since you wrote that you'd never seen
a ProLine before, I offered to send you a copy for free--a bold move by
anyone's standards. You were free to report whatever you felt about
it--positive or negative. However, since you can't even run the software,
you have absolutely no ground in making any comments about it at all!  Yet,
you've been offering your unsolicited diatribes as if you actually use
ProLine.  The net demands better of you than that.
 
You've made many judgements about what you consider to be the best BBS for
the first time and seasoned sysop (and all roads lead to GBBS).  You
claim that ProLine is too difficult for you to modify, thus is isn't a
good choice for anyone. Then you claim that GBBS would be better because it
allows for easy modification.  I can see why this would be so important to
you, as has been so clearly described by yourself and many on this group,
because GBBS cannot be USED without a lot of fixing out of the box.
 
A good BBS for first time sysops?  Your myopic perspective of what a new
sysop wants in a BBS is fuzzy. If you want to be a fixer, then by all means
buy yourself a fixer-upper.  I don't think it is good for anyone who simply
wants to *run* a BBS.  ProLine is not that kind of product. When you buy
and run a ProLine, it works well, right out of the box.  It provides the
flexibility to be modified *without* having to do any programming at all.
Should you want to change the software using the best tools available, we
provide these *and* expert technical support at *your* option.
 
The fact is, Greg, until you get a hard drive, you can't run ProLine.
Therefore, all of your statements about it should be regarded as highly
unfounded from the readers on this newsgroup.  I fulfilled my end of the
agreement by allowing you to evaluate the software at no charge to you.
Since you cannot uphold your end, please cease all commentary on this
subject NOW.  I would also appreciate your sending it all back so that
someone can use it and evaluate it fairly.  You'll find our address on
the back cover of the ProLine manual.
 
--Morgan Davis

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