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From: dcall@mithril.wr.tek.com (Dale Call)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: The LC vs. IIsi
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Date: 7 Jun 91 15:48:17 GMT
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In article <1991Jun7.130713.26470@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>,
tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Lee Thiel) writes:
> I don't completely agree with your enthusiasm for the LC, I have seen alot 
> of software compatibility problems with it.  Also the power supply is way too
> small, intentionally crippled by Apple to prevent 3rd party upgrades.  

The power supply is small because the box is so small.  When you aim for
an elegant
design, that's a tradeoff you make.  I don't expect it to limit me very
much, and I
love the small, compact size.  The LC is a great entry level Mac, the
first Mac I was
willing to purchase with decent performance, screen size, and
*affordable* pricing. 
Beats the hell out of the 386 windows machines around here on price & windowing
speed!  I would NEVER buy a Classic or SE or plus, the damn 9" screen
drives me crazy
... and my friends with SE's are drooling over my 12" mono display ...

So far, the only major third party SW with compatibility problems has
been Excel 2.2,
and Microsoft had a fixed version out within months.  This was due to
the missing
FPU, which kills the IIsi as well unless you fork out more $$.
Everything else I've
tried works fine, unless it is really outdated stuff that can't cope
with Sys 6.0 on
any machine.  The only real limit is I cannot run VM (no MMU), but I
don't consider
that a real limit.  VM is *SLOW*, I want a fast, snappy machine, not a
dog that is
continually swapping to disk.  So far I have yet to run out of memory on
my 4Mb machine with Sys 6.0.7, I plan to upgrade to 4Mb simms before I
get Sys 7.0 (10Mb memory total, 8Mb in 24bit mode, 10Mb in 32bit mode).

> >The LC is also aimed squarely at 80386SX
> Windows boxes, and it frequently beats them on both price and performance.
> 
> Well the educational price isn't bad but the dealer price is horrendous from 
> what I have seen.  Local dealers are selling it for $3200.00 w/2 megs
Ram/40 megHD > and that crummy little 12 inch color monitor.  Thats
pretty ridiculous.
> Educational price is almost half that.  I have also read that Apple
has licensed at > least one computer "superstore" to sell the
Classic/SE30/LC/IIsi.  It will bevery
> interesting to see what happens to prices then!  I'm sure that a
superstore can
> give the same level of support as a regualr dealer which from what I
have seen is
> non-existent.

Pricing around here is VERY competitive, with LC 2/40 w/12" mono monitor
going for
less than $1900.

BTW: on the subject of memory, Apple did design both the LC and the SI
to take the
mythical 16Mb simms, but until such beasts arrive, no one can really be
sure if they
will work - Apple tried before with 4Mb simms in the II series, and lost
when the vendors added the wonderful "test" mode.

Dale

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