Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!gatech!purdue!ccncsu!mozart!klingspo From: klingspo@mozart.cs.colostate.edu (Steve Klingsporn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple should let us e-mail System 7 Message-ID: <15355@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> Date: 6 Jun 91 04:57:47 GMT References: <52925@apple.Apple.COM> <1991May15.221944.2905@eng.umd.edu> Sender: news@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU Organization: Colorado State University Lines: 46 Stop bitching about Apple. It's not Apple's job to baby-sit developers. Shit, they had several copies out for EACH AND EVERY developer that was registered -- a9, b1, and b4, and you could get interim versions if you bugged the right people. Even if you weren't a registered developer, I knew of people who managed to get it. So, the point is -- with all the drafts of Inside Mac, all the updates to the interfaces, all the sample programs and code, and all the CD's that were pressed, Apple did something unprecedented -- they let their development community in on something that would usually take place behind closed doors -- a major new version (note not "re-write") of the Macintosh Operating System. Now, quit bitching. Developers had 2-3 years to plan for this, and frankly, if you don't have updates really damn soon now, perhaps you should think about not ordering products from those developers again. Don't know about you. Like saying that Chevy is responsible for making sure that each and every driver wears his/her seat belt and drives on the right side of the road (well, in America) when you drive a Nova. I think Apple is to be heralded for their decision to have a basically open development of System 7.0 -- if Apple made sure every damn application out there worked (and I read figures of something like 90-something % backwards compatibility), you would still be stuck with 6.0.X. Developers who follow the rules reap the rewards of compatibility. Supposedly, developers who still mess up and have significant (ahem, Microsoft) products on the platform have Apple babysit for them, but geez -- to be so arrogant to think that everyone spins around your product!??! Grow out of it. Apple did a wonderful job, and DTS and the 7.0 team is to be commended. Stop bitching at Apple and start bitching at the people who caused the problem, and evidently aren't fixing it -- the developer of the product that remains incompatible. They had time to come out with a version that is, believe me. Steve Klingsporn