Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usenet From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Subject: Re: Apple's incompatibility with itself Message-ID: Nntp-Posting-Host: eclipse.its.rpi.edu References: <1991Jun6.211643.5064@neon.Stanford.EDU> Date: 7 Jun 91 01:08:28 GMT Lines: 33 The one thing that aggravates me the most is the situation with MPW. It really seems there could have been a version of MPW available which would save files under system 7. In my case I wanted to buy the ETO disk anyway, but for anyone who does not want to shell out $1K there is currently no way to use Apple's own editting environment under system 7. MPW is a pretty nice editor system, and it's irritating that Apple left people with the choice of: 1) you can use MPW to edit text files or 2) you can run system 7 or 3) you can shell out $1000 (and find a CD-ROM player) to get a beta version of MPW that can actually save changes made to a text file. Now, option 3 is reasonable for those who want C, Pascal, C++, MacApp, and everything else on E.T.O (or at least a large subset of the many things that are included). For me, it's OK. For people who just need one compiler (maybe even some third-party compilier that happens to run under MPW) and something to edit large text files with (MPW itself), the comment that they can buy ETO to get a working text editor is pretty obnoxious. The new MPW environment is quite nice, but for those with less $$$ to spend on such luxuries it would be nice if there was a version available, all by itself, that could at least be *used* with system 7. Even if it was just the old version without all the new goodies but with the ability to save changes under system 7. Well, I better stop before I get really worked up about this all over again. Other than the snafu with MPW, I think system 7 is a pretty impressive job. - - - - - - - - Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@rpi.edu or gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu ITS Systems Programmer Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA