Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!mips!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!extro!norton From: norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Norton Chia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Inappropriate dialog under 7.0... Message-ID: Date: 10 Jun 91 10:40:23 GMT References: <7425@cactus.org> Sender: news@metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia Lines: 42 Nntp-Posting-Host: extro.ucc.su.oz.au kiran@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes: >>rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett) writes: >>>The setup: copying files to a disk which already has identical files on it. >>>The resulting dialog: >>> "Some items in this location have the same names as items you're >>> moving. Do you want to replace them with the onces you're moving?" >>>Could cause some alarm, especially if the user takes it at face value (i.e., >>>moving = copy + delete). >norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Norton Chia) replies: >>At face value, replacing with the on(c)es you're moving means exactly that -> >>I'm going to wipe out (replace) the stuff with the ones I'm copying across >>(moving). So what's the alarm? >But you're not moving them. You're copying them. If you were >moving a file, you'd still only have one of it. But if you copy it to >another disk, you have two of it. Well, I don't know of any "move" command in the Finder. I'm suggesting it's either the metaphor that's got to change, or your perception of "moving" an icon that's got to change. Nevertheless, I think we'd all agree that we would want a more forgiving Finder that will say things like (as was bounced about on the net some time ago) that it should ask if we want the files on the target disk to be removed, or give us the option to "move and rename". At least it asks you if you wanted to replace them... Bloody Unix just does it - BANG!! Oh, sorry, Unix is for "experts" who know what they're doing and do not need some pissy Finder questioning their motives. :) At least they have both a "copy" and "move". Q: How would you rename a file from X to Y? A: You type m(o)v(e) X Y. Of course unless Y is a directory, in that case, you'll be moving X "into" Y. :) PS I love these complaints about the Mac, it keeps Apple developers on their toes and shows how much we use (tempted to say love) the Mac as well! :) Cheers, -- // Norton Chia || I can be reached via e-mail --> norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU / / Micro Support || Yes, this is Australia calling. ////// AppleLink: AUST0240 / / Uni of Sydney || No, I haven't got anything to say but "Thanks", if I forgot //// When I'm talking half way around the world, my employers can't hear me ///