Xref: utzoo news.admin:15032 news.software.b:8174 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!maverick.ksu.ksu.edu!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!mccall.com!tp Newsgroups: news.admin,news.software.b Subject: Re: Really funny jokes being missed Message-ID: <1991Jun7.125118@mccall.com> From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 91 12:51:18 CDT Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) References: <3752@ksr.com> <10623@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1991May29.221015.1865@druid.uucp> <1991May31.101334@mccall.com> <4812.284e0cf6@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Distribution: world Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA Lines: 50 In article <4812.284e0cf6@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>, herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes: >You left out the response by the people who paid attention. Their >response was "It was announced about three months in advance." Where? With what subject line? >The phone companies have a similar problem when they split an area >code. They plaster billboards and the sides of buses and the newspapers The usenet equivalent of plastering it on a billboard would be posting it to news.announce.important, which has not been done, and would still be in order. I do recall seeing some discussion about C news' handling of articles with bogus headers. Given that I was running a news system that was generating articles accepted world wide, including by the C news system that is my upstream feed (and thankfully has not yet installed the patch), I didn't pay much attention to it. My software didn't generate bogus headers, it generated headers acceptable to ANU News, C news, and B news, at the very least. Now, had there been a discussion about C news dropping articles with valid headers, or previously valid headers, or wording of that nature in the subject line, in news.admin, I would have seen it and acted on it. Do you read absolutely every article in this group? I don't. I read the articles that I'm interested in, and those that seem to have a bearing on maintaining the functioning of my news system. I only wandered into this thread by mistake. If I see a thread about C news, I skip it because I don't run C news. Take the lists of dropped messages being posted in news.lists as an example. 'C news non-header line report'? Why would I read that. At best, it looks like a bug report about C news posted in the wrong group. If you are trying to warn people, it makes sense to post in a forum read by those people, with a subject line designed to attract their attention. Subject: ATTENTION non-C news newsadmins, important warning would certainly have gotten my attention, posted to news.admin, news.announce.important, or news.software.anu-news. I don't read news.software.b because I don't run B news or C news. I suspect you don't read news.software.anu-news for similar reasons. Posting something about C news dropping articles with bogus headers is about as much warning as the legal notices in the back of the newspaper that few people ever read. They aren't designed to notify anybody, just to be able to say "we did notify the public" at a later date. -- Terry Poot The McCall Pattern Company (uucp: ...!rutgers!ksuvax1!deimos!mccall!tp) 615 McCall Road (800)255-2762, in KS (913)776-4041 Manhattan, KS 66502, USA