Path: utzoo!utgpu!cunews!cognos!stewartw From: stewartw@cognos.UUCP (Stewart Winter) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Cdn Parrot Symposium: Orenstein Speech Message-ID: <9718@cognos.UUCP> Date: 9 Jun 91 22:38:25 GMT Reply-To: stewartw@cognos.UUCP (Stewart Winter) Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Lines: 99 First summary (as promised) of Canadian Parrot Symposium: Why Aviculturalists Should Support Regulation of the Wild Bird Trade by Ron Orenstein, Project Director, Internation Wildlife Coalition ----------------- Mr. Orenstein started his talk by presenting facts that support his belief that trade in most birds will be elimiated by around 1996 with some exceptions for zoos. (References to 2 bills before congress, in Europe, and at IUCN (World Conservation Union)). His talk was aimed at convincing aviculturalists to support these efforts and offered proof that they would be good for us. Mr. Orenstein stated that the pet trade (through PIJAC) and aviculturalists have been opposed to stopping the bird trade, and have been highly emotional in their treatment of most proposals regarding it. These reactions have damaged the credibility of aviculturalists within the conservation community. Aviculturalists must learn the diffence between attempted control of wild bird trade (which would permit "managed import of small number of birds that may be needed to establish or bolster captive gene pools") and control of aviculture (something only supported by fringe conservation groups). His arguments against the wild bird trade (as it now exists) are that it is wastefule and inhumane, that it reduces wild populations, that it does not contribute sustantial income for local people, and that there exists no proof of viability of sustainable wild bird trade. The bird trade is practiced primarily in pristine habitats and "birds disappear ... long before the habitat itself is threatened." None of these are "criticisms of responsible aviculture." He then suggested that some parrot breeders are finding it difficult to compete with the wild bird trade (in terms of selling babies) and cited an editorial in the Pionus Breeders Associations Newsletter. He went on to state that when a species is readily available (wild caught) that less success is obtained in domestic breeding (because less effort is applied). He went on to disuss the need for increased regulation. He stated that the current trade mechanisms (including CITES) were ineffective. For example, in 1984 American records show 4820 birds exported to Canada, and Canadian records show 587 birds imported from the United States. CITES II in particular has had little impact on smuggling. (side note, Canada is now preparing legislation to permit it to deal much better with controlling CITES listed species). He suggested that the "most effective way to improve enforcement would be an outright ban on their [birds] import except under very special, carefully controlled cirumstances." "To be truly effective, though, a trade ban must be international in scope." He referred to a study by Laura Simon that shows that the New York state law banning sale of wild-caught birds had not been detrimental to the pet trade. [sjw: I think Gary Lilienthal had strong opposing view to this statement.] Regulation is coming and a "knee-jerk opposition to it will mean that your views are not likely to be heard" and will be "seen by conservations as self-serving." Input into regulation bills could be important. For example, "I undestand that a bill introduced in Michigan, seeking to restrict ownership of certain species of pet birds, actually sought to differentiate for that purpose among colour morphs [colour mutations] of lovebirds. Ignorant drafting [of regulations] helps nobody." Aviculturalists are missing out on opportunities to help save rare parrots because they are not trusted by the conservation community (example of Puerto Rican Parrot was cited.) He argues that aviculturalists should be active in upholding the law (whether they approve of it or not), and reporting and boycotting unscrupulous dealers and importers. Aviculturalists should work actively within breeding consortiums (where personal owernship of the bird would be illegal). "Those who can help save rare species are trustees for all of us and should act accordingly." --------------------------- This summarizes most of his points. It was a rather lengthy talk and so some stuff has been chopped down quite a bit, but I think the general idea comes across. Personally, I think he makes a lot of good points and I support the idea of a ban provided that it is not beyond the patience of a small experienced breeder to go through the process required to obtain an endangered bird. Also, I imagine a great deal of trouble in showing proof of domestic breeding (gene tests would work, but they are very expensive). But I think it is abundantly clear that 3rd world countries do not have the resources to police their wildlife resources, and that policework will have to be done in the 'target' countries. I'll try to write up Gary Lilienthal's talk next weekend ... it is a bit shorter and the AFA certainly holds a more moderate position that Mr. Orenstein. Stewart -- Stewart Winter Cognos Incorporated S-mail: P.O. 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