Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!udel!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!milton.u.washington.edu From: gordonh@milton.u.washington.edu (Gordon Hayes) Newsgroups: rec.guns Subject: Re: Magazine Safety Message-ID: <35357@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 7 Jun 91 12:26:21 GMT Sender: magnum@mimsy.umd.edu Organization: University of Washington Lines: 40 Approved: gun-control@cs.umd.edu cash@convex.com (Peter Cash) writes: #In article <35305@mimsy.umd.edu> gt2852c@prism.gatech.edu (Edward Hefter) writes: ##I've never really wanted to shoot without a clip, now that I stop and think ##about it. What kind of situation are you envisioning? #1. You are engaged in a fire fight. #2. You have nearly emptied your magazine. Your opponent has disappeared. #Since it's stupid to run your gun dry, you drop the magazine so that you #can insert a full one. #3. At that moment, your opponent unexpectedly charges. Because your gun has #been designed to protect the feeble-minded and the careless, that round in #the chamber can't be fired, and you get dead. Exactly the reason I hate having a gun with a magazine safety. If one follows the first rule of handling a gun (that it IS loaded, regardless of what YOU think), the safety not only shouldn't be necessary, it should be ludicrous. I can't really think of a reason to have one, and if soneone does NEED one, perhaps, they shouldn't have a gun in the first place. Of course, now that I think about this for a moment, if you only use a handgun for target purposes, it might make sense. But as I look at handguns as combat pieces, I don't wish to own one. The day I got my S&W model 59, I removed the rear sight and took out the piece of metal that engaged the mag. safety. Number 3 above, is exactly why having one is dangerous, as number 2 above, is how one would want to replace a fresh mag in a fire fight. But since I don't see a model 59 as a target piece, but as a combat piece, I don't see why I would want one on it. Anyway, I sold the 59 and I'm looking for a more appropriate handgun now. -- Gordon Hayes, MCIS, University of Washington gordonh@milton.u.washington.edu Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore"