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Subject: Re: Long gun for rural property advice request
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Date: 10 Jun 91 22:10:22 GMT
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I agree.  The .30 carbine is a good round that does not deserve the
derision heaped upon it.  It's a relitively low power round (110
grains at about 1500 fps, right?), but very controllable, and accurate
enough at 100 yards to regularly hit a man size target.

The M1 carbine has about the same recoil and noise level as the AR-15,
and is a *lot* cheaper.  (Under $200 surplus.)  Soft points are available.
(Maybe hollow points too, although I've not yet seen any.)  The .30 carbine
cartridge is a bitch to resize, though.

			Ron

#[MODERATOR:  Note that the original poster mentioned 15 acres.  Not a 
#lot of elbow room for a .30-'06, hmm?  Also, they mentioned recoil from
#a shotgun as a consideration.  For what its worth, my original response
#to them was to consider a surplus .30 carbine -- cheap, light, plentiful
#ammo, etc.  Maybe not the fight-stopper that a .375 H&H would represent,
#but then again it should be adequate for most of the criteria originally
#mentioned.  If not used for defensive purposes, then some kindly local
#could also make up some handloads with nice jacketted hollow points, instead
#of hardball, to get better stopping power for hunting. ....]