Xref: utzoo sci.bio:5118 talk.origins:15595 Newsgroups: sci.bio,talk.origins Path: utzoo!utgpu!lamoran From: lamoran@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (L.A. Moran) Subject: Coelacanth and Evolution Message-ID: <1991Jun6.171806.23089@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Organization: UTCS Public Access Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1991 17:18:06 GMT In response to a question about whether coelocanths have evolved Christopher Green mentioned punctuated equilibrium. Jorn Barger then said, "I'm a bit disappointed that only one coelocanth-followup mentions this obvious-but-still-apparently-under-disseminated viewpoint. This is hot stuff indeed, and theoretically revolutionary. The argument is that the classic pattern of evolution is not a smooth, gradual blurring from one species to another, but an alternation of relative quiescence and relatively rapid phenotypic transformation." I think that Jorn misunderstood the previous posters (including myself) who said that lack of phenotypic change does NOT mean that evolution has stopped. This is the same objection that I have to Eldridge and Gould's theory. They tend to focus on changes in morphology, as seen in the fossil record, and equate these changes with evolution. (In fairness this is actually an error made more often by their uninformed supporters.) I see evolution as a continual, relatively smooth, change in the frequency of genes in a population. Sometimes these genes affect morphology, in which case evolution is documented in the fossil record, but most of the time other aspects of the organism are affected. Jorn Barger then proceeds to offer an explanation of punctuated equilibrium, "I'll take this opportunity to present again my best guess as to the mechanism at work here: What has to be explained is why there may be adaptive mutations present in a genepool, _that don't spread through the entire population_. What is the conservative principle balancing natural selection? I claim it is sexual selection. If an ideal sexual stereotype is set up early on in the evolution of a new species, as it must be, then it may serve to reduce the sexual attractiveness of new adaptations that deviate from that stereotype. Perhaps a wide range of favorable adaptations can build up at the fringes of the genepool, in marginal niches where a slight adaptive superiority counts for more than sex-appeal, but never spread through the rest of the population, breaking through instead only when a change in the environment makes the niche marginal for the entire population." There are several better ways of explaining why a favorable allele may not become fixed in a population. But the main argument against sexual selection is much more obvious. Jorn, are you aware of the fact that punctuated equilibrium was based on the analysis of the evolution of molluscs? The other supporting evidence relies heavily on the evolution of other marine invertebrates and plants. I don't think that sex-appeal or sexual attractiveness is very important in oysters, ferns, grasses, and barnacles. -Larry Moran