Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdcad!amdcad!military From: jln@leland.stanford.edu (Jared Nedzel) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Air to Air F-16 vs. F-18 Message-ID: <1991Jun7.072053.7864@amd.com> Date: 4 Jun 91 17:53:37 GMT References: <1991May24.030712.9709@amd.com> <1991Jun1.012622.27527@amd.com> Sender: military@amd.com Organization: AIR, Stanford University Lines: 27 Approved: military@amd.com From: jln@leland.stanford.edu (Jared Nedzel) edat!brian@uunet.UU.NET (Brian Douglass) writes: >U38956%uicvm.uic.edu@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU writes: >>I seem to recall in a dogfight over NAS Miramar circa 1987, a flight of USMC >>F/A-18 Hornets defeated a flight of USAF F-16 Fighting Falcons. > > Any jet jock will tell you, it's not the plane, its the man. [deleted] >All due to superior flight skills and training. A great plane does >not make up for poor tactics. Also, don't discount the effects of the rules of the fight. For example, consider the following scenarios: Two F-16s armed only with sidewinders in a fight with two F-14s armed with phoenix, sparrow, and sidewinder missiles. First scenario: planes approach nose to nose and fights on when the pass each other. Second scenario: planes approach nose to nose from a distance of 100 miles. Fights on at 80 miles. There are lots of variables in these kinds of situations: plane, pilot, weapon systems, rules, luck, etc. It's hard to draw a conclusion based on the results of a single dogfight. -- Jared L. Nedzel nedzel@cive.stanford.edu jln@portia.stanford.edu