Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: rivero@dev8a.mdcbbs.com Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Sexism vs. Men's Oppression Message-ID: <1991Jun5.141436.1@dev8a.mdcbbs.com> Date: 6 Jun 91 18:38:45 GMT References: ear.cs.duke.edu> <1991Jun3.224400.897@milton.u.washington.edu> <676012995@lear.cs.duke.edu> Organization: McDonnell Douglas M&E, Cypress CA Lines: 27 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: glacier.ics.uci.edu In article <676012995@lear.cs.duke.edu>, gazit@cs.duke.EDU (Hillel Gazit) writes: > > For time being I point out problems I see and talk about possible > solutions. The idea is to prepare the tools/ideas/goals for a > real equal rights movement, and to wait for the next opportunity > to come. Sounds like a cop-out to me. In Vietnam (your example) nobody "gave" anyone the opportunity to make change. There were enough people with the courage to get off of their duffs to MAKE it happen! Talk is cheap. The price of action is much greater. But actions are what shape the world. It may serve a purpose to "point out problems I see", but there are already too many umpires. We need more people to actually carry the damn ball down the field! ========================================================================== \\\\ Michael Rivero | "I drank WHAT!" | "I favor population | \ (. rivero@dev8a.mdcbbs | Socrates ------------------- control, as | )> DISCLAIMER::: |-----------|Anyone who does | long as it's | == "Hey man, I wasn't |Looking4luv|not get 8 hugs a | with someone | ---/ even here then!" |Settle4sex!|day is in trouble| else's kids!"| ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------+++++++++++++++