Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: grossg@patriot.rtp.dg.com (Gene Gross) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: God-breathed scripture (was--Re: St Paul and Women) Message-ID: Date: 7 Jun 91 03:11:26 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC. Lines: 38 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article jb104@prism.gatech.edu (Jamie Tarasidis) writes: >In article smithjh@argus.CS.ORST.EDU (Jeremy Smith) writes: >>The scripture is "God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for >>reproof(testing), for instruction in righteousness." Unless the Holy > >At the time this verse was written, the "scripture" consisted only of >our Old Testament. The New Testament canon was not decided upon until >later. You may believe that the same is true for the New Testament verses >which you quoted, but this verse does not refer to them. It would be better >to simply state your belief that the New Testament books are God-breathed, >instead of substantiating it with a verse which does not apply. Jamie: Please read 1 Timothy 5:18 and check out the references. Paul quotes from Deuteronomy 25:4, which he calls Scripture. AND, Paul in the same verse quotes as Scripture (note the verse Jerremy quoted) Luke 10:7. But this isn't the only witness that the New Testament is part of Scripture; consider the testimony of Peter in II Peter 3:15-16 "And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, even as our beloved brother, Paul, also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." Peter says the Epistles of Paul will do what the *other* Scriptures will do. Peter says ALL of Paul's Epistles are inspired, just like other scripture. So there is evidence that the New Testament was known to be Scripture before the councils to decide the canon. En Agape tou Iesou, Gene