Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!nih-csl!helix.nih.gov!donnel From: donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn) Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts Subject: Re: automated sequencing Message-ID: <1593@nih-csl.nih.gov> Date: 16 Jun 91 01:42:43 GMT References: <9106140059.AA13341@genbank.bio.net> Sender: news@nih-csl.nih.gov Distribution: bionet Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda Lines: 41 In article <9106140059.AA13341@genbank.bio.net> 21337MGR%MSU@ICNUCEVM.CNUCE.CNR.IT ("Jonathan.Walton") writes: ->My department is considering buying an automated DNA sequencer. Some are ->enthusiastic ("The Time Has Come") but I've personally heard mainly negative ->things - too cumbersome, error rates too high, no net savings in time and ->money, etc. Could I solicit from subscribers to this bulletin board that have ->had experience with automated DNA sequencing a summary of their experiences ->and opinions? Information about particular machines would also be very ->helpful. -> ->Thank you very much. ->Jonathan Walton (21337mgr@msu.bitnet) ->Plant Research Laboratory ->Michigan State University I think anyone who invests in the current state of DNA sequencers is making a big mistake. We have an Applied Biosystems 370A sequence sitting in our lab here at NIH and no one has yet to use it (although a few have tried). Simply put, this machine is too complicated for the average bench scientist to use. From what I have seen, in order for these instruments to be sucessfully utilized, they "MUST" be run by a skilled technician. If you are planing on buying one of these macines, you better also plan on having the bucks to hire a technician whose sole mission in life is dedicated to maintaining and operating this instrument. If you think that someone can walk up to the machine and start sequencing with little effort, think again. In terms of saving time -- even if the instrument worked to its full potential, I very seriously doubt whether it would save much time over traditional sequence methods. When our instrument was set up the A.B. tech. rep did some sample sequences with M13. After the run, he had to manually edit the output base by base since about 5% of the nucleotides were listed as "N". This editing took as long as it would take me to read AND edit (at the same time) an autoradiogram. In addition, while someone is editing a sequence on the instrument, it can not be used for sequencing at the same time. My advice for anyone who is doing a lot of sequencing is to invest in a half dozen good sequence apparatus and hire a couple of good workers as technicians. You will get the sequences just as fast. Donald A. Lehn NIH/NCI/DCE/LMC-Protein