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From: bagchi@eecs.umich.edu (Ranjan Bagchi)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Possibly nefarious users
Message-ID: <BAGCHI.91Jun12132001@snarf.eecs.umich.edu>
Date: 12 Jun 91 18:20:01 GMT
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In-Reply-To: alden@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu's message of Fri, 7 Jun 1991 21: 53:49 GMT

In article <1991Jun7.215349.11643@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu> alden@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Dave Alden) writes:
>In article <1991Jun7.184025.25010@eng.umd.edu> russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
>>Oh, and if you made a habit of leaving your car unlocked with the keys in the
>>ignition, and people came by and took it for a spin now and then, I suspect
>>the cops would just laugh at you for being such an idiot if you tried to 
>>prosecute them.
>
>At first I thought you were kidding, but then I read your other posts and I
>realized that you just don't have a clue.  Rather than waste bandwidth I'll
>just point those with a similar opinion to the Internet worm case with Robert
>Morris(sp?) - he tried a similar line of reasoning and lost in court.
>
>...dave

	If we're agreeing that Morris' Worm was a Bad Thing, I'm still
going to resist going with saying that the holes in the OpSys were
just like leaving the door open in your car with keys in the ignition.
It wasn't.  It was more like picking locks, which everyone knows can
work, but most people aren't going to devote the resources to go about
it.  Granted, that Everybody knew about the holes which Morris took
advantage about it, but he did have to use at least a bit of
sophistication to use them, and that's where the difference is.

	I really don't think there should be a whole lot of protection
for people who insist on being stupid and having publicly accessible
accounts called "guest".
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