Xref: utzoo alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk:135 comp.admin.policy:455 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!world!eff!kadie From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy Subject: Punisher Message-ID: <1991Jun14.192722.339@eff.org> Date: 14 Jun 91 19:27:22 GMT Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation Lines: 32 Resolved: The punishment that a computer administrator can impose on a student should be not exceed that which an instructor can impose. In 1904, the student regulations at the University of Illinois allowed an instructor to punish a rule infraction by suspending a student from class for up to three days. Such suspensions had to be reported to the President immediately. Today, an instructor can lower a grade or give the student a written warning with a copy going to the student's file. An instructor cannot suspend or expel a student (but can, of course, recommend such action). This policy is wise; it is a check against overly harsh punishment. (A suspension from the classroom, computer, or campus is serious because it may prevent a student from completing a required homework or test.) Today (not at U of Illinois that I've heard of, but at other places), computer administrators expel students from the computers. The expulsion are often indefinite. There is often no report made to anyone outside the computer organization. The student is given no explanation of his or her rights (apparently because computer administrator believes that the student has no rights.) Computer administrators should work under the same constraints as instructors. They should not be allowed to punish a student with suspension or expulsion for the computer system. - Carl -- Carl Kadie -- kadie@eff.org or kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- But I speak for myself.