Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!romp!auschs!d75!awdprime!piobe.austin.ibm.com!sjb From: sjb@piobe.austin.ibm.com (Scott J Brickner) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: RE: UNIFIED MODEL FOR KNOWLEDGE REPRESENTATION? (IMPOSSIBLE Message-ID: <8455@awdprime.UUCP> Date: 13 Jun 91 20:17:05 GMT References: <25348@samsung.samsung.com> Sender: news@awdprime.UUCP Reply-To: sjb@piobe.austin.ibm.com Organization: IBM Austin, Contractor Lines: 35 I'm not anything like an expert in AI, or even philosophy, but as an independent thinker, I've got to poke my nose in here for a second. The thread which got us here had some argument about the value of a knowledge-base that was based only on the subject's "perception" of the world around him... the question proposed was "How, then, can any two speakers know that they are speaking about the same thing?" How, indeed? This is a VERY fundamental philosophical question... How do you know ANYTHING? What does it MEAN to KNOW something? I think that thinking too much in terms of an AI knowledge-base leads us sometimes to forget that they are supposed to be (in some sense) similar to "natural" intelligences (NI), with our own intelligence being the only model of such available. So the first question then, is "What does it mean to know something?" One proposed answer is that the ONLY real facts you know about the universe-of-discourse (universe) is what you "perceive". The implication here is that the NI's knowledge-base is purely his PERCEPTION of the universe. A corrollary is that it is the ACT of PERCEIVING that CREATES THE REALITY within the universe. Two such subjects only know about objects about which they have had common perception. It is to be hoped that the universe is sufficiently consistent that there is normally some non-empty intersection between these two perception sets. Each intelligence also perceives objects indirectly, through communication with other intelligences. Eventually, a process of abstraction creates an object-image within the knowledge base of "what everyone knows about such and such". THIS is how we know we're talking about the same thing (or at least THINK we are). So what's the problem? Sorry if this is somewhat elementary, but it seems relevant to me (i.e. I perceive it as relevant). Scott