Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!news.media.mit.edu!media-lab.media.mit.edu!minsky From: minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: THE I OF THE BEHOLDER (and Solipsism) Message-ID: <1991Jun14.195449.28656@news.media.mit.edu> Date: 14 Jun 91 19:54:49 GMT References: <9106140011.AA14996@lilac.berkeley.edu> <1991Jun14.153701.842@cs.yale.edu> Sender: news@news.media.mit.edu (USENET News System) Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Lines: 13 Now I understand better what McDermott meant. I think I also understand better what Smoliar meant. I rather liked his use of the term "solipsism" to make a nice point about objective truth being largely (or entirely) unavailable, so that our "knowledge" is always to some degree really, only "belief" and that belief itself is not ever clearly about "things" but is an internal repationship between the person's "self-fulfilling hallucination conspiracy", as McDermott put it, and other parts of that person's representational data structures. "I believe X" means, in that interpretation, something sort of like "the imaginary person-self S that is me has stored an X expression in the (imaginary) part of S's memory that is used for expressions that are not to be easily changed."