Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!helios.physics.utoronto.ca!ists!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!oz From: oz@ursa.ccs.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit) Subject: Re: scheme [Re: What does an anti-perl look like] In-Reply-To: skrenta@amix.commodore.com's message of 14 Jun 91 17: 51:08 GMT Message-ID: Sender: news@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca (USENET News System) Organization: York U. Communications Research & Development References: <2625@amix.commodore.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1991 08:11:31 GMT skrenta@amix.commodore.com (Rich Skrenta) writes: Scheme may very well be The Future, but this arrogant attitude does nothing to promote the language. I don't see anything particularly arrogant about a strong suggestion that there is more to some languages than their syntax might alone suggest, and that they should perhaps be studied before their dismissal. I also happen to like scheme a lot, and I can go to some lengths to help people learn more about the language, hence the posting of a near-complete bibliography. Scheme may be wonderful, but you shouldn't dismiss people who complain about its syntax. Their complaints may be valid. If I were to dismiss people because they complain about the syntax, I would not try to help them see beneath it by posting real information. Surprizing as it may seem, I have no strong feelings about lisp syntax, and in the past I have challenged other people who made unsubstentiated or irrational claims on the usefullness of such syntax. Btw: there is at least one book near completion about the representation and implementation of programming languages that shows the implementation [using scheme] of scheme-like languages without a lot of brackets. It should be out before the summer is over. oz --- Often it is means that justify ends: Goals | email: oz@nexus.yorku.ca advance technique and technique survives even | phone: 416-736-5257 x 33976 when goal structures crumble. -- A. J. Perlis | other: oz@ursa.ccs.yorku.ca