Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:9689 comp.misc:12895 misc.consumers:31940 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!temngt23 From: TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu (Lou Anschuetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.misc,misc.consumers Subject: Everex BIOS Password Message-ID: <91163.205448TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu> Date: 13 Jun 91 00:54:48 GMT Organization: Youngstown State University VM system (YSUB) Lines: 33 Our university has been buying exclusively Everex PCs for about the last three years. Our lastest shipment for student PC labs came with quite a surprise. The new Setup routine lets you set a password on the hardware. The only way to remove this password is to take the battery out of the machine and wait until the setup information is lost. As you can imagine, putting these machines in an unsupervised student lab will soon lead to each and every one having a password on it. Argh! I immediately contacted a sales rep at Everex (a Mr. Joe Herndon (sp?)) who reported that their industrial customers demanded this feature and that they weren't about to change it for their educational customers. Well, as a first response we have cancelled all future orders for Everex machines until/unless the problem is fixed. The State of Ohio will also be removing them from our state pricing contract unless the problem is fixed (this will likely happen on June 19, 1991). In the interim, I and our purchasing department felt that other folks may wish to be made aware of Everex' new BIOS routine and the complication it may cause others where more than one person needs to have access to the machine. While I am sure this may even be a desireable feature in some industrial settings, it is certainly problematic in other settings. As the situation changes we will post additional information. You may contact via email for further info, or is there is sufficient interest, I will post more extensive information here. Lou Anschuetz Associate Director for Academic Consulting (soon to be an expert at battery pulling :-) temngt23@ysu.edu