Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!ils.nwu.edu!sandell From: sandell@ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) Newsgroups: comp.music Subject: Re: reality and computer sound [was WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THIS NEWSGROUP?] Keywords: question for discussion Message-ID: <2121@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> Date: 15 Jun 91 19:24:05 GMT References: <9106120249.AA20142@lilac.berkeley.edu> <1871@culhua.prg.ox.ac.uk> <2100@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> <1991Jun14.164758.23557@agate.berkeley.edu> <152033.16945@timbuk.cray.com> Sender: news@ils.nwu.edu Reply-To: sandell@ils.nwu.edu (Greg Sandell) Distribution: world Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences Lines: 46 In article <152033.16945@timbuk.cray.com>, dpm@hickory07.cray.com (Donald P. Maghrak) writes: > In article <1991Jun14.164758.23557@agate.berkeley.edu> maverick@mahogany.Berkeley.EDU (Vance Maverick) writes: > >To reverse the decay of comp.music into rec.music.synth.backup, Greg > >Sandell proposes chasing all the synth people away, and then says such > >researchers as he have no time to contribute. I think the latter is > > > Hmmm...This is getting confusing. The above paragraph implies that this is a > -computer music group- (which I thought it was). I recently recieved mail > from a reader of this group claiming it was a -music theory group-. If it > what to do? > > 1) rename this group comp.music.theory > 2) form a new group comp.music.technical > 3) use rec.music.synth for technical/hardware topics. > > Don Maghrak A reminder: the charter to comp.music says that it is devoted to *research* questions pertaining to the use of computers in music. (At least, this is what I posted previously, and Stephen Page did not contradict this.) I think Steve Smoliar's response and some of what I say incidental to music theory in my Timbre Perception posting discourages option no. 1. What is usually called music theory may not be inappropriate material for comp.music, but the fact is, it's hardly ever discussed here. (The guy who said that comp.music is a -music theory group- was off base.) Option no. 2 is a little better, but it still neglects to indicate the research premise of the group. How about comp.music.research to get to the point? As far as option no. 3 is concerned, I think that technical/hardware issues per se are by no means inappropriate topics for discussion on comp.music. Discussions of synthesizer system architecture, or questions about synthesis algorithms seem appropriate to me. A query about the Wavestation's MIDI System Exclusive message, however, does not...it belongs in rec.music. synth. Queries about DSP boards for Macs or SPARCs fall within the cracks between these two groups, I think, but comp.dsp is the best place to get a sound reply on that subject. It is hard to draw the line, but if the question concerns a particular commercial product exclusively, it just doesn't belong on comp.music, IMHO. -- Greg Sandell sandell@ils.nwu.edu