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From: awessels@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Wessels)
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Subject: Re: Should we let students run COPS to get each other's passwords?
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Date: 13 Jun 91 14:26:02 GMT
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In article <1991Jun13.042534.16952@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes:

>  -- My point is extremely simple: honest people don't even TRY to
>     break into other people's accounts or obtain passwords without
>     authorization.  Security holes or not!

Your point is very simple.  And absurd.  I've watched several people attempt
to crack systems.  In most cases, their intent was to see if it could be done.
That's it.  Sys admins were considered members of a "club" that threw up
security as a challenge.  The entry test was the system security.  (Not
literally of course.)

Honest people do break into systems.  I've witnessed them do the crack and then
report it to the systems people.  Sounds pretty honest to me.