Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!bonnie.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!cse!utarlg.uta.edu!b645zaw From: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (Stephen Tice) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Idea to help curb unwanted junk mail Message-ID: <1991Jun13.223616.27679@cse.uta.edu> Date: 13 Jun 91 21:30:19 GMT References: <14713.28453476@fidogate.FIDONET.ORG> <1991Jun12.224050.9098@midway.uchicago.edu> <1991Jun13.042624.17037@athena.cs.uga.edu> Sender: usenet@cse.uta.edu (USENET Dummy account for GNUS and TheNews) Reply-To: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington Lines: 44 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 In article <1991Jun13.042624.17037@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington) writes... > >Before that requirement was imposed by Congress, first class mail >was actually subsidizing junk mail! Or so I'm told. Whether It pays for itself (outright) or not, it's still our tax dollars that enable the situation to exist. A much larger postal bureaucracy is the result. Besides the impact that all this paper has directly on the environment (tree cutting, toxic inks, waste bulk, energy cost , and litter) it takes advertising dollars away from electronic media . I strongly support telecommunications and computing as cheaper, cleaner, and better than information delivered by physical transport methods. Especially, if it gives me "search" and "kill" capability. {not "search and kill", I haven't gotten that frustrated yet 8-} The net culture is the new power group. Real-time, constant access shared mind is a phenomena that demands courtesy. The ability to turn off people, to filter out distractions, and then later to open up and wallow in the info-flow is crucial. Any system which seeks to interject into our thoughts, pass the filters we set up, subverts this, be it propaganda, advertisement, or well intentioned social sharing. Junk mail / telemarketing and other unsolicted forms of subtle coercion most importantly waste time which can't be replaced. I wrote to the 3 "flyer" companies that send newspaper insert bundles to me by mail. The first time I asked them to stop. The second time I asked, I told them it was against my religious beliefs. The stuff is still coming, almost everyday, bundles of newspaper advertisements that go straight from my mailbox to the the trash. I asked the post office if they would stop the "to resident" stuff, also no luck. I've sent a letter of complaint to President Bush. Congress would be useless since they have a vested interest in keeping this going, as a method of supporting small business. Of course, I'm already boycotting the businesses who resort to this. Junkmail is harassment! I'm wondering if legal injunction can be used to make them quit? Does anyone know of a precedent? _ Stephen Tice _ (b645zaw@utarlgt.uta.edu) / don't own a TV anymore --> because of commercials \ \ sure miss Star Trek NG <-- NetNews is my substitute /