Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!uunet!mcsun!ukc!mucs!logitek!sadss!garethh From: garethh@sadss (Gareth Howell ) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Subnetting a very large population Keywords: subnetting, rfc950, rfc1219, tcp, ip Message-ID: Date: 12 Jun 91 16:51:33 GMT Organization: Department of Social Security Lines: 36 Hi all, I wonder if someone can help me with a tricky problem I am trying to come to grips with. I have the (un)enviable taks of coming up with an Internet Addressing Strategy for the UK Department of Social Security's internet (note small 'i':-). This comprises (or soon will) 2500+ Ethernet LANs: each with anything from 4-50 PCs, Unix application servers and gateways on them; all interconnected using the Government Data Network (X.25 (1980)). Most of the operational systems use OSI protocols, but there is a significant amount of IP traffic, mainly for SNMP HUB and BRIDGE and host management on the LANs. What I need is a sanitory way to split up the population to ease number allocation and permit local administration of each LAN. What I have come up with is this, and I would like comments (good or bad :-): Allocate a single non-subnetted Class B address to the X.25 GDN (2500+ hosts). Allocate a number of Class B addresses to clusters of LANs, and subnet each of these networks in accordance with RFC950 and RFC1219. I have one outstanding issue relating to this, and that is whether dynamic routing protocols will cope with this environment. Specifically, will a host on LAN 'A' (which is a subnet of network 'X') be able to reach a host on LAN 'B' (which is a subnet of network 'Y') by routing across the GDN. The problem seems to be whether the routing tables in LAN 'A's GDN gateway, know that to get to LAN 'B' you have to go to LAN 'B's GDN gateway: which implies that LAN 'A's gateway (on network 'X'), knows the subnet mask of network 'Y'. I'm not sure this is possible; but the alternatives of allocating a single Class A network address to cover the lot, or allocate 2500+ Class C addresses + 1 Class B address (for the GDN) are either impractical, or unmanageable (and anti-social if we advertise 2500+ networks to the core!!! ). Any ideas? Gareth Howell garethh%sadss.uucp@ukc.ac.uk (I think that's the best route for mail)