Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!quiche!tinyguy From: tinyguy@cs.mcgill.ca (Yeo-Hoon BAE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: (Video) Hardware Idiots ? Message-ID: <1991Jun13.175041.15679@cs.mcgill.ca> Date: 13 Jun 91 17:50:41 GMT References: <22368@cbmvax.commodore.com> <1991Jun12.232718.2373@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> <22392@cbmvax.commodore.com> Sender: news@cs.mcgill.ca (Netnews Administrator) Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada Lines: 27 In article <22392@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes: >In article <1991Jun12.232718.2373@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> rjc@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ray Cromwell) writes: >>In article <22368@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes: > >> So the max transfer rate, with 0 wait states is 10mb/sec (theoretical) on >>the fast ram bus at @25mhz. > >Well, that's to fast RAM, which actually does have wait states. You can't run >zero wait states on a 25MHz 68030 using DRAM, at least not without extra magic. > This is what I was puzzled for a while(still am). Why does 030 needs MUCH faster DRAM to get it's 0 state, compare to 386? I know that on 386(at least from it's manual), you can get a 0 w/s by using 80ns interleaved memories. This was at 20MHz, but it seems that 20MHz 030 won't go even close to achieving that! Am I mistaken? Are the 386 board manufacturers not telling the truth? -TG +-----------------------------------------------------------+-----------+ | Yeo-Hoon Bae tinyguy@homer.cs.mcgill.ca | /// | | Dept. Computer Science, McGill University, Canada | /// | |-----------------------------------------------------------| \\\/// | | Amiga2000 & 386SX | \XX/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+-----------+