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From: tinyguy@cs.mcgill.ca (Yeo-Hoon BAE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga basher
Message-ID: <1991Jun14.174123.14259@cs.mcgill.ca>
Date: 14 Jun 91 17:41:23 GMT
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In article <1991Jun14.062332.2079@cs.mcgill.ca> genius@cs.mcgill.ca (Michel NGUYEN) writes:
>
>
> I did and still do and it works fine. Maybe you don't know how to set
> up your .ini files. Drop me a mail and I'll show you.
> Is this your most common applications?? downloading files, un-lharc,
> and edit a file?? ok. good for you. I don't do that anymore as you

   There is a good reason why I do lots of modem use. That's becuase
   it is so convinient. Right now, I am using my IBM to type this
   and, YES, this is not very comfortable. Funny, since they are
   sharing the same modem...

> know 2400 is slow, and we (you and me, yes) have the NeXTstations with
> a 1.44 drive, I use that instead. My most common apps was AutoCAD.
> Now it's games, and Fractals.

   Again, those NeXT drives really annoy me, since it doesn't always
   work... Ok, so more recently, I had a better success, but still
   I can't trust on some important data. In any case, I'd rather
   let 2MB of files downloaded over night when I'm sleeping, than
   wait in front of NeXTs copying them at 5KB/s(Yes, I measured...)

> The handicap is not Windows, it's DOS. DOS is my worse nightmare. 
> Knowing that DOS is a brain-dead OS and what Windows can do, I'll say
> 'nice touch' for Windows (3.0 of course). From all the GUI I have seen/
> tried/worked on, NeXTstep is best (graphically speaking), followed by
> Windows 3.0, then Motif, and the Mac. Amiga GUI comes last (although
> with 2.0, I'll prefer 2.0 over the Mac even 7.0).
>

   Yes, everyone agrees that MS/PC DOS is brain-dead. Don't mis-under
   stand me, I do like windows, especially considering the limitation
   DOS has... It's just that Windows is not as good as some systems
   with their OS designed as a multi-tasking OS from the beginning.
   Funny thing about Windows is, why is it not able to perform
   pre-emtive multi-tasking for Windows software while it can do it
   perfectly well for DOS apllications?
   And what do you like about Windows? Looks? Functionality? Feels?
   Really, these are honest questions which I'd like to know from
   experienced Window users. Admitedly, I had Amigas for far longer
   period.

> I have a friend who happens to own an Amiga 2000 for 2 years now (I think),
> and I happen to play with it some time. He has customized his env.
> alright, but still I didn't like it. I have spend almost 4 hours playing
> with an Amiga3000 and UX with 2.0 (playing: try DynaCADD, try the Toaster, 
> run several apps, some games, trying to customize the env., and some
> sound prgs). I could stay (it was at SIMM) and try longer, but I got
> bored :-( . I follow (but not as religiously as I should) some of
> the Amiga Mags (that's why I spend most of my time at Camelot). 
> What is for you "properly"? Knowing what it can do and what it does
> isn't enough? 
>

   What I meant by 'proper' means that YOU set up your environment
   to suit YOUR own needs. Of course, if you go to other people's
   machines which are highly customised for his own taste, you will
   probably not like it. It took me over half a year to go through
   all PD libraries and set up near ideal to my taste. 4 hours is
   hardly enough... YES, just knowing it's capcability isn't enough.
   It's hard to explain the feelings, but once you get used to
   Amiga's environment, everything else looks sluggish. Whenever I
   thought 'that's it, this is the limitation of the OS', here comes
   another PD to rescue.
   I have a question to ask : If you have LOTS of files to copy or
   move around your HD, which program would you use?

> Did I say I don't appreciate the Amiga?? If I did, my mistake. 
> My posting was for the guy who said the Amiga can beat the shit out
> of the Mac and PeeCee. I say no and I was trying to tell him why.
> I think you miss the point here.
>

   Ok, so I missed the original point, I guess. But, I am merely
   telling you the feelings that I have. I may have to change
   my machines next year, and the leading candidate could be
   a 486 system :(, but even if I own a 486, my feelings towards
   Amigas will never change. I'm sure lots of Amigans are also
   fallen into this trap :)

> Let's call Q.
>

   Now you are telling me. Should have put this at the beginning
   of this letter!

>
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>                           "L'avocat du diable"
>
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   What does this mean? I don't know French...

-TG

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