Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: scsi cable frustrations Message-ID: <16958@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 12 Jun 91 04:01:19 GMT References: Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 67 In article sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth D. Kadesh) writes: >What's that 800 number to complain about Apple dealers? an edited chunk of an old file I have talking about the 800 number: call their 800 number (1-800-538-9696), ask for customer/dealer relations and give them the name of the dealers in your area who don't seem to know anything about Apple ]['s software operating systems. >db25 male to a centronics 50 male. Great. All I need is something >that goes from a male centronics 50 to a 50 pin "header" connection - >what you see on the drive. This is not a standard cable. I got one of these cables for $5 from a local place called Weird Stuff.. They have a bundle of pre-made SCSI cables. Works like a charm. If you want to send me a check to pay for it and postage, I'll buy you one and send you one. If other people are interested, I could do it for you too. Just e-mail me. > I say "Hi. I need to get a SCSI cable for my Apple IIGS" First thing.. Don't mention the Apple II when you talk to dealers. Sad but unfortunately true. Besides, from your description, your cable has NOTHING to do with what computer you are connecting it to. You are just connecting from the DRIVE (the end that has little places for the "snaps" on the drive to go into), to the SCSI CABLE.. So basically you have two cables. You could make one homemade cable to go straight from your SCSI card to the drive, but that'd be non-standard. > I say "mailorder company" > He says "and you expect me to connect them?" He sure as hell should connect WHATEVER drive you bought, as you paid for it and are going to pay for their work.. (that is, you WOULD have done that.. now you have a cheaper alternative) >I ordered the parts today, so >hopefully I will have a working cable within the next week! Oh, I guess my offer then is pointless for you... >Just double checking with you hardware gurus out there: from the 50 >pin centronics (female) to the 50 pin header connector (to the drive), >all pins go straight through (pin 1 to pin 1, ... pin 50 to pin 50)? >Why are there 50 pins in the SCSI cable, if there's only 25 pins >coming out of the RamFast? There are only 25 pins coming out of the RamFAST because they apparently have done the same thing Apple has, cut back on the SCSI standard. There also probably wouldn't be enough room on the back of the computer for a 50 pin connector. But anyways, the SCSI standard talks about 50 pins, I believe 25 of which are ground. I still don't understand the reasoning for multiple grounds, but it supposedly cuts down on noise. And yes, it is "straight through." My drive fried once, and I still haven't figured out definitely whether it was me or the power supply or something. I believe I may have forgotten to flip over the ribbon cable before connecting the other connector. Ohwell, I have a cheap, pre-made cable now. even better. -- /unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! unknown@cats.ucsc.edu\ |WANT to help get ULTIMA VI //e or GS written?-mail me. CHEAP CD info-mail me.| \ It's a Late Night World.... Of Love /