Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ysub!temngt23 From: TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu (Lou Anschuetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Subject: Re: Everex BIOS Password Message-ID: <91164.224523TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu> Date: 14 Jun 91 02:45:23 GMT References: <91163.205448TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu> <1991Jun13.105945@neiman.east.sun.COM> <1991Jun13.184802.14562@b17d.b17d.ingr.com> Organization: Youngstown State University VM system (YSUB) Lines: 38 In article <1991Jun13.184802.14562@b17d.b17d.ingr.com>, hovanes@b17d.b17d.ingr.com (Ken Hovanes) says: > >In article <1991Jun13.105945@neiman.east.sun.COM>, evan@neiman.east.sun.COM >(Evan Marcus (Sun NJ Sys Cons)) writes: >> In article <91163.205448TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu>, TEMNGT23@ysub.ysu.edu (Lou >Anschuetz) writes: >> |> student lab will soon lead to each and every one having a password >> |> on it. Argh! >> >> Seems to me, all you have to do is put your own password in first. > >That's what I thought. I just thought I misunderstood the article. Of >course, you know students. They'll take the pc apart and take out the >jumper for the bios battery, damn them. >> >> Am I missing something? > >Am I missing something as well? > To use the machine, according to the sales people, students have to enter this hardware password. This means I have to give them the password. Once you have the password you can change it to anything you want. So, now I've given them a password and made it clear that they can change it to something else. If I don't set it at all at least only the ones who discover it will set passwords. Also, I have to merely notify 15,000 students each and every quarter as to what the password is. Plus, I now have to fix the ones with the changed passwords just like not having one initially installed. I think this is a severe problem at a very minimum. As it is now I have to run setup on about 50% of our machines each and every day since students change it. To remove the password means having the machine battery out for 2 hours! With 63 of these machines already on campus in labs it could take 40-50 hours per day just to remove password. Hmm, seems like a problem here.... :-) Lou Anschuetz temngt23@ysu.edu