Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac.hardware:12081 comp.sys.mac.programmer:25911 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!udel!haven.umd.edu!umbc3.umbc.edu!umbc4.umbc.edu!brian From: brian@umbc4.umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: NuBus traffic Keywords: NuBus, ethernet, video Message-ID: <1991Jun13.183543.12392@umbc3.umbc.edu> Date: 13 Jun 91 18:35:43 GMT References: <1991Jun11.160305.7049@hubcap.clemson.edu> <1991Jun11.190925.25293@world.std.com> <871@taniwha.UUCP> Sender: newspost@umbc3.umbc.edu (News posting account) Organization: Univ. of Maryland Baltimore County, Academic Computing Services Lines: 32 In article <871@taniwha.UUCP> paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell) writes: >In article <1991Jun11.190925.25293@world.std.com> aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page) writes: >> >> The Mac implementation of NuBus has a maximum bandwidth of >>about 20 MB/second. Add to that the screen is not really >>causing all that much taxing of that when you consider that the >>QuickDraw toolbox does not write to the whole screen at once. > >actually this happens more often than you think - consider a full-screen >(at 640x480) window scrolling ... > >This is why people build quickdraw accelerators, especially for 24-bit cards, >I know of an existing on-card accelerator can move an entire pixel in <100nS >so scrolling can be >10x faster (or closer to 20x for a MacII). > What I really keep waiting for, is someone to come out with a graphics board for the MacIIfx that uses the processor direct slot. The problem with the fx is that is scrolls *slower* than a IIci. Because the NuBus is such a pig (at best, on a good day, ~30 Mbytes/sec, block mode) there is a real bottleneck between the processor and the video ram. Worse, the NuBus is EXPENSIVE to design interfaces for. Even the chipset that TI has is $50 in quantity. So, what would be nice, is for someone to introduce a video display board for the IIfx that used the processor direct slot. It would be MUCH faster and should cost less. It's not hard to imagine that a 40 Mhz 68030 running quickdraw would start to approach the speed of a 25 Mhz 29K. -brian