Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!news From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger) Subject: Re: MacIIci vs. NeXT station? In-Reply-To: sjhg9320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Thu, 13 Jun 1991 03: 00:39 GMT Message-ID: <7v6H-b6v@cs.psu.edu> Sender: news@cs.psu.edu (Usenet) Nntp-Posting-Host: sunws0.sys.cs.psu.edu Organization: Penn State Computer Science References: <1208@chem.ucsd.EDU> <1991Jun13.030039.9957@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Distribution: usa Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1991 02:08:36 GMT Lines: 42 In article <1991Jun13.030039.9957@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sjhg9320@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (K-29 Brown) writes: Before anyone takes this as a flame, let me state that I think The NeXT Station is truly a wonderful thing. I had the same dilemma last spring- bought a IIci because of the currently available software and the ease of upgrading the hard-drive. Most of the stuff available for the NeXT as detailed in their software booklet was supposed to be released this spring, but the lion's share of it is still 'Real Soon Now'/'Vaporware'. It's probably best to call the companies to find out what's actually shipping and what isn't. Word Perfect and Improv are shipping. Adobe and Mathematica(free, but not ready) will ship in July. Quark XPress has been put on hold. When you price the NeXT, make sure you include the cost of a 300 Meg HD upgrade.There's no way in heck you can run the full kernel, apps like Microphone, Improv, and WriteNow and fit it all in 100 or so Megs. I recommend getting an extra 8MB of RAM too. The Chip Merchant is selling 4MB SIMMS for $160. The 300MB drive will probably cost around $1100. I've seen 660MB for $1500, so you might want to consider that. If you can network your machine to another group of NeXT's then you can buy a 1.2GB drive for around $2200 and everyone can share the cost. BTW, you might be able to make do with the 105MB NeXT. It really depends on what you want to do. You can digitize songs tha take up 5-30MB a pop. However, Word Perfect, Improv or FrameMaker documents will take up far less space. Another thing to include in your pricing scheme is the cost of the software you'll buy. If you like straight Unix stuff, you'll be home free, but if you want to buy stuff like the previously mentioned applications, include a 100% premimum- just like the Mac vs. DOS, software publishers need to charge more to show a profit, due to the restricted market of the machine. Well, WriteNow is free. Improv, however, does cost $695(it was free until March 31. That's when the NeXT deal was really sweet). I think WP might run $395 or $495 through NeXT Connection(1-800-800-NeXT). -Mike