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From: das15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas A Scott)
Subject: Re: X on the NeXT
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1991 03:39:47 GMT

In article <1991Jun12.020913.24116@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> nick@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher) writes:
>I want to run som X11 stuff on my NeXT. Are there and NeXT ready X11
>packages out there for free? Is the X11 on cs.orst.edu just that? 
>
>Do all of these run in there own window?  I do not want to replace
>NeXTStep ad my windowing environment - just run a few X apps.

	First off, yes, the X11 package on cs.orst.edu is an X server and
	accompanying programs which run "instead" of NextStep in the sense
	that the X window temporarily replaces the NextStep display--but you
	dont need to concern yourself with that when you run it.  You can
	survive with a small subset of the binaries that come with it--just
	read up on X to determine which.

	I do want to say that today I spent an hour on the phone helping
	someone untangle the mess that is created when one attempts to install
	the X package off of cs.orst.edu.  Apparently whoever created the
	install package did what seems to me to be some unnecessary business
	with long pathnames to the directories.  I would like to make a
	suggestion:

	Have the install package simply create a directory called "X" or "X11"
	in some sensible place (such as /usr/local) and then put 3 or 4
	subdirectories within that called bin, include, and lib -- plus one
	more perhaps called usr.include.  After those are created, the script
	can create the necessary links from those dirs to /usr/bin/X11,
	/usr/include/X11, and /usr/lib/X11, respectively.  That way, is is
	easy to back files up on disk or tape, and it parallels the structure
	of the original X source tree.  The libarary archives can be either
	actually installed in /usr/lib or linked from the usr.lib
	directory--again for ease of backup.

	I will close by saying that I am an enthusiast of both X and NextStep,
	believe in having and using them both, know a bit about the weaknesses
	and strengths of each, and wish to work to make both as easy and
	accessible as possible on the NeXT platform.
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